NASA AirBrush Artist Tells All
 
> NASA AirBrush Artist Tells All>> A Former employee
of the National Aeronautics and Space> Administration
reveals how NASA covers up and erases UFOs from
satelite photos. But first a little bit about this
former employee:

DONNA TIETZE HARE
Formerly of NASA, female slide technician, the recipient of
numerous space awards including 1969 Apollo
Achievement award from the National Aeronautics &
Space Administration, 1973 Skylab award, a medallion
for success on the Skylab-Suez Test project, numerous
other awards for her skill as a technical Artist,
honors, awards and a 1994 reccomendation by Texas
Governor Ann Richards to the Advisory Committee of
Psychology Associates. Donna Tietze has spent most of
her professional life involved in the Space Program
as a technical illustrator. She drew lunar maps,
landing slides, she worked in the photo lab,
Precision Slide Lab, reducing art work to one inch by
one inch drawings. She drew launch sites, landing
sites and was employed as a sub-contractor to NASA
for over 15 years. She worked on flight manuals for
astronauts & has the wonderful ability to put words
into images but uniquely, learn to do everything
backwards, including mathematical computations, the
writing of words, to put it simply, this woman has
seen just about all the different kinds of images one
could see that are used in Space Programs.

Donna Tietze interviewed on Washington D.C. Radio Station
The following is a partial transcript of a radio talk
show that occurred 5/6/95 on WOL-AM in Washington
D.C. which is simulcast on WOLB-AM in Baltimore
Maryland. The show is broadcast every Saturday night
at 12:00am. The show is called "UFOs Saturday Night".
The guests on that date were Stanley McDaniels,
author of the McDaniel Report, Erol Toron, a
cartographer and who provided valuable information
for Richard Hoagland in preparing his book, "The
Monuments Of Mars". Also on the program was Keith
Morgan, Dan Drazon and Donna Tietze, a former
employee of NASA in Houston, Texas. The transcript
was transcribed by Donald Ratsch, "Operation Right To
Know" (ORTK) from an audio recording of the show.

Elaine Douglass (ORTK) host of the show:
Elaine Douglass: This is Elaine Douglass, WOL News-Talk
Network, ou> show is UFOs Saturday night and here in
the studio with Keith Morgan and our topic is the
Face On Mars. We have a new guest on the air with us,
Donna Tietze. Donna, you are also with three
scientists who are on the air with us and that would
be Stan McDaniels from California, Erol Toron from
the east coast and Dan Drason whose in Colorado. The
reason that I asked Donna to come on the show, Donna
is in Houston, Texas and kind enough to join us
tonight to tell us some very interesting things she
observed while working at NASA. Donna is an educator
and she is working on her Masters in Education. In
the past Donna, as I understand it you held a
position for 15 years with a contractor at the NASA
Johnson Space Center in Houston. You were a photo
technician?

Donna Tietze: Correct!

E.D.: Donna welcome to UFOs Saturday Night. Tell me and tell
everyone the incident that you recall as they say in
the law court, did there come a time when you walked
in a photo lab and someone told you something quite
astounding? What happened that day?

D.T.: Yes Elaine, that's true. During the Apollo mission I worked
at NASA throughout those Apollo missions and I did
leave NASA at the time the space shuttles began. I
worked in building eight in the photo lab. I had a
secret clearance so I thought I could go anywhere in
the building. And I did go into one area that was a
restricted area. In this area they developed pictures
taken from satellites and also all of the missions,
the Apollo missions, flight missions. I went in and I
was talking to one of the photographers and
developers and he was putting together a mosaic which
is a lot of photos, smaller photos into a larger
photo pattern. And while I was in there I was trying
to learn new methods and new things about the whole
organization and I was looking at the pictures and he
directed my attention to one area, he said, Look at
that. I looked and there was a round oval shaped,
well it was very white circular shape of a dot and I,
it was black & white photography, so I asked him if
that was a spot on the emulsion and he said, well I
can't tell you but spots on the emulsion do not leave
round circles of shadows

E.D.: So there was a shadow on the ground?

D.T.: Right, a round shadow!
And I noticed that there were pine trees, now I don't
know where this area was or what, you, pretty close
to the ground what I saw but I didn't see outline of
the> continent. But I did notice that there was shadow
under this white dot and I also noticed that the
trees were casting the shadows in the same direction
as this shadow of the circle of this aerial phenomena
because it was higher than the trees but not too much
higher than the trees but it was close to the ground
and it was spherical but slightly elongated, not very
much but slightly. I then said, is it a UFO? And he
said, Well I can't tell you. And then I asked him,
what are you going to do with this piece of
information? And he said, well we have to airbrush
these things out before we sell these photographs to
the public. So I realized at that point that there is
a procedure setup to take care of this type of
information from the public.

E.D.: Isn't that remarkable gentlemen?

Stan McDaniels: Elaine, I was
unable to really hear very much of that.

E.D.: Oh
really?

SmcD: I did catch air brush it out.

E.D.:
Alright, Stan can you hear this station break coming
up?

SmcD: Uh, sure.

E.D.: So alright, we are going
into that, we'll be back in just a couple of
minutes

BREAK
E.D.: Erol Toron, you are here?
E.T.: I'm still here
E.D.: Alright fine, Stan you
said you could not hear the account that Donna
gave?
SmcD: Not very well.
E.D.: Alright, Keith
would you like to recapitulate what Donna said?

Keith Morgan: Stan, what she said was that she was in
the photo lab at NASA and that she was looking at
some photos and one showed an elliptical object,
white object that was casting a shadow on the ground
above some trees and the technician in there, she
asked him if it was a UFO? He said I can't tell you.
She said what are you going to do with this kind of
information? He said well that is the kind of stuff
that we airbrush out.

SmcD: Oh I see, thanks for that!
E.D. So Donna that's approximately, essentially
correct what you said, right?
D.T. Right!
E.D.: Yes well I, Stan I think that's quite startling, don't you?
SmcD: Its speaks for itself.
E.D.: Yes it certainly does, Now Donna there is another matter
that you learned about when you were there at NASA. I
believe this was> through a third party, a person that
you were spending some time with who was a fellow
NASA employee?

D.T.: Right, in fact after we talked,
I thought about another incident with a guard that I
would like to convey too that's very important. This
man that I had dated was in quarantine with the
astronauts when they had come back from the moon and I
had talked to him about seeing this saucer (satellite
photos) and asked him if he had heard anything about
that and he told me that every astronaut, every moon
trip had been followed by craft, by saucers, that
every one of them, every astronaut that went to the
moon, now I don't know about other sites but they all
had seen it and all had been told to keep quite about
it and they were threatened with jail and their whole
retirement, everything taken away from them. They were
also, this told me that if I ever told that he said
it, that he would deny it, that he would never admit
that he told me all of that.
E.D.: Did you hear that Stan?
SmcD: No
E.D.: Alright, ah, go ahead Keith,
recapitulate. (Keith repeats everything of that part
that Donna Tietze stated, to McDaniel)
SmcD: Oh yes I see
E.D.: Yes and I believe that Donna you related
to me, you friend came to believe that the UFOs were
instrumental in getting Apollo 13 that was, ah, our
disable mission to the moon, was it 13?
D.T.: Right, well he said that it shouldn't have come back, I
mean, there was no, ah, they had help. And that's was
all he would say.
E.D.: All he would say?
D.T.: He said it was impossible for that craft to have gotten
back home
E.D.: Donna you said that there was
another matter that you wanted to relate to us.
D.T.: Yes, something that I didn't talk to you about
earlier. When I had quite work, I had an office, I
was doing ilustration work a another office, in
another part of town. And a man that had been a guard
at NASA during the time came into my office and he had
a large gash scar on his forehead and he told me that
he was a guard at NASA and that he was burning a lot
of photographs of UFOs. That was his job. E.D.:
Really (surprised)
D.T.: And he said he stopped to
look at one too long and one of the other, I gathered
it was some type of military man, hit him in the head
with a gun butt and knocked him out.
E.D.: What?(shocked)
D.T.: Because he had looked at one of the
photographs too long, he did describe the photograph
to me which I tend to believe was an accurate
photograph.
E.D: Oh, my god!
D.T.: He explained
that it was a craft on the ground and it looked like,
it was like a regular saucer with like little bumps
all over and he said it was like it was burnt. He
said cows in the field all had their tails stuck
straight up. At the time he said he didn't know when
cattle were frightened, that their tails would stick
staight up. And he described this to me and since
then, I did describe it to someone that I thought
might have looked at some of these photos, possibly
and they did look kind of frightened that I shouldn't
know> about that one. (the next several minutes
later the conversation is more about UFOs following
Apollo crafts to the moon)
E.D.: The second part of
her account had to do with the stalking of our space
mission by UFOs of our space missions to the moon and
so on. She even said that they apparently helped in
one case by bringing the Apollo 13 back, that was the
impression that she got and..
D.T.: yes but they
(aliens) also didn't want that craft to investigate
the part of the moon that they was going to, so they
may> have caused some of it too, but it was supposed,
we were told not to go but we ignored it. Now that's
what I've heard, that some of the stuff he was
telling me.
E.D. Did he say that, your direct
contact?
D.T.: Yes!
E.D.: That the United States
was told not to go to the moon?
D.T.: To that certain
place on the back side of the moon.
E.D.: And did he
know why we weren't supposed to go there?
D.T.: I
guess they didn't want us to see something back there,
I don't know, I don't know that part. (interview
winds down a few minutes later and the show is out of>
time)>> END>>>>>>>